ARE WE ALONE OUT THERE? YES OR NO?

I would like to open this debate and say Yes. Shall we begin...


-Joel-


or shall I say...let the games begin....

Yes I believe we are
not alone out there. There is too much proof that Aliens exist. Just two days
ago I saw a UFO. I was at my job it was dark. I was in my car laying back in
the seat looking an the night sky. Then I saw it, it was very small, a pen
point of light, lighter that all the other stars barely visible to the naked
eye but I still could see it. It was moving very fast I thought maybe it was
moving 9,000 miles per hour. But since it was in outer space and visibly moving
very fast, it could have easily been moving 100,000 miles per hour. I have written
a letter on who I believe these aliens are. It is called





Are Fallen Angels
Actually Aliens.

Are the one third of the fallen angels described in
Revelation12:7-9
Actually space Aliens. We will discus the facts in the up
coming pages. My Lovely wife was the one who first mention this idea to me and
it make perfect sence. It is our belief that aliens are working with the
antichrist, studding us and doing all kinds of metical experiments on
abductees, so they will have all the right answers for the antichrist when he
comes on the seen. The antichrist will have all the answers that pelage our
world today. He will have the cure for just about every incurable disease know
to man, thanks to the assistance from the alien abductee research. In
Revelation 13:13 it says{ He did counterfeit miracles such as making fire flame down to
earth from the skies while everyone was watching.} Highly Possible that he
will use some kind of highly sophisticated alien technology to perform this
light show. When these angels were in heaven before they were thrown down to
the earth, they were full of God’s glory, but when they rebelled against God
they lost their glory and took on the form we know them as today, aliens. The
masters of the new Age Movement are aliens says Benjamin Creem. The leader of
the aliens will speak to everyone telepathically on television around the world
and everyone will understand him in their own langue. The Life is in the blood.
In Deuteronomy 12:23 God says that the life is in the blood. I believe that in
order for these fallen angels to take on physical form they need the life blood
of live stock. They mutilate them and take massive amounts of blood to use for
the express purpose of transforming into physical beings called Aliens. Once in
physical form they are free to continue in their diabolical schemes.

Lee you are right! I definitely believe that there is Aliens. I will find the verse and prove we are right.

i believe they are demons

bible says satan is prince of the air

I have read a book a while back on

The Omega Conspiracy: Satan's Last Assault On God's Kingdom

This is a very
interesting book, about Aliens in the Bible and UFO’s portray as Nephilim


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For other
uses, see Nephilim (disambiguation).


Nephilim are beings who appear in the Hebrew
Bible, specifically in the Book
of Genesis, and are also mentioned in other biblical texts and in some
non-canonical Jewish writings. In the Bible, specifically the Book
of Genesis, Chapter 6, verses 1 through 4 describe the origin of the
Nephilim:


"Now it came about, when men began to multiply on
the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw
that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves,
whomever they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with
man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one
hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days,
and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and
they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of
renown.<sup>[1]



I really believe he is right; He goes on to say that
when</sup> ever you read about them God
comes and destroys the land. As it happen in Noah’s day’s and so in Lots days,
Also were the giants in the Numbers 12:33 33.
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants:
and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. God
also told Joshua to kill everybody there, because the same problem was existing
in the so called promise land. For some reason God hates these Naphilim’s that
he always destroys afterwards. The Bible also says that as it was in the days
of Noah and Lot, so shall it be in the coming
of the Lord. The New Age with the Illuminati are preparing to bring in the new
world order the Age of Aquarius. Have you Ever heard of Lord Maitreya well he
is a Master of deceit, The new age claim that they have masters which are
aliens and that this Lord Maitreya is the embodiment of all the prophets and
that Jesus was the lowest of them all. Can you believe such blasphemy? They
adore Lucifer and even name their news paper lucis trust. They denied that Lucifer
is Satan and they are rewriting the Bible and History. They say “Lucifer"
really means, and realize it is not referring to Satan, but a king of Babylon, and comparing him
to the morning star, or Venus. Well if you hear what the aliens tell their
abductees that the come from Venus. Did not God said Isaiah 14:12 {How art thou
fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the
ground, which didst weaken the nations!} Who has fallen? The aliens the UFO’s.
Yes I really believe that the UFO’s are the fallen angels. I also believe that
this government are covering up and they give these aliens protection under one
condition that they in exchange share the knowledge They the Aliens say that
they will protect us from the more aggressive ones which are the Lizard kind who eat people. You know what this is
all a lie they are both as evil. We must be prepare for this because one day
they will show their ugly faces, and have results for a lot of what ails you.
But they will never fool me. Anna

i have the book

There are Aliens out there and they are more advanced then we are. We got most of our computer technoligy from Roswell, NM.

I do not believe there are any Aliens out there due to the following reasons:

1. As the science can see, there is no planet inhabited.
   
2. Where do they come from?
   
3. Why do they always land in the western world?
   
4. Why they look so cartoonish in features?
   

The Bible says, Thus the heaven and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing, so the seventh day He rested (Genesis 2:1-2)

I personally believe that the whole theory of Aliens is a hoax for cheap publicity. If you believe in Aliens, then you Deny Jesus Christ.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones...(Colossians 1:15-20)

If Christ is the image of God, then whose image do these aliens carry? If Christ chose to become a man and come to earth, then according to you, Aliens became superior to Jesus in earthly form. Contradicts faith and the authority of Jesus Christ.

The Bible says, Do not go beyond what is written (1 Cor 4:6) But wait! I have your Alien, and he looks less intelligent than me for he is without clothes and I wear clothes. If God is creator of everything in heavens, as the Bible says, then whose image is this alien created on? Does he look intelligent to you? If we have got our computer technology from them, then why do they come naked? If they are so superior, then why can we see them and what do they come for? I have others pictures of Aliens to share with you to show their intelligence...

I respectfully disagree with you Daniel. I do believe in aliens.

As the science can see, there is no planet inhabited.



There are aliens even living among us on this Planet in disguise. We can’t see them because the their
planet is to far away, they get here because they are way more advanced than us
and have learned how to use worm holes, entering through them in close proximity
to our planet.

Why do they always land in the western
world?

There are reports of alien abduction reports and alien
sightings all over the world, not just in the western world.

1. Why they look so cartoonish in features?

They look cartoonish
because the picture you posted you got from a Hollywood
movie. The real aliens do ware space suits.


I personally believe that the whole theory of Aliens is a hoax

For aliens to be a hoax would be impossible. There are way to many documented cases,
documented cases that are unexplainable. As the TV show the X files so often
said. The truth is our there.


If you believe in Aliens, then you Deny Jesus Christ.

I do believe in
Aliens and I do not deny Jesus Christ. There are many things that are not
written in the Bible. Just because they were not written in the Bible does not
mean that they are a hoax.

If Christ is the image of God, then whose image do these aliens carry

The Bible says
that we are made a little lower that the angels. Which means that they are
different that us. As I have said in one of my previous letters. I believe that
the aliens are fallen angles. When they fell from heaven as disobedient beings
to God. Thery were cursed, they lost the glorious splendor that surrounded them
as angels of God. They can take up any form they like and the alien look is one
of there disguises, they are really demons, which were angels of God before the
fell.

Aliens became superior to Jesus in earthly form.

Alien or any other being can never be superior to Jesus at any time. Although aliens existed
in the time if Jesus, they were not superior to Him in any way. Jesus put aside
this powers to become a man, this means that he still had all of the power and abilitie
as the man Jesus, he just chose not to use them. He was God Almighty in human
flesh.

This is my own
personal belief on aliens. Although I disagree with you Daniel, I deeply
respect you and I know you are a true man of God. I is okay to have disagreements
between brothers, that is what a forum is supposed to be like, right. Lee

Lee, you wrote that Aliens come from a far off planet. This is an assumption and no reality. You say there is lot of proofs, then look at CIA's declassified Report of UFO sightings. They have admitted to the fact that many of UFOs were test aircrafts. I am quoting some very reliable sources, who proved that the most trusted images or films and Alien signals are hoax.

"Alien Autopsy" a Hoax, Fox Says

In fact, World's Greatest Hoaxes: Secrets Finally Revealed, hosted by Lance Henriksen and airing December 28 at 8 p.m., is executive produced by Robert Kiviat, the same guy who made the ratings-friendly Alien Autopsy.

Kiviat says that the idea to do a special on hoaxes came about when he was looking at footage for inclusion in his 1997 Fox special, UFO's, The Best Evidence Ever Caught on Tape. He wondered how some of the stuff was created. According to a flamboyant Fox press release, the latest hourlong special uses "NASA-type video enhancements" to shed new light on how the peep into alien innards--"one of the biggest hoaxes of all time"--was accomplished.

[b]Kiviat, who says he always doubted the truth of the alien autopsy, describes his specials as having "a documentary spin." Digital enhancement revealed a previously invisible face in a segment of very dark footage. Four months of what he calls "Woodward and Bernstein-type journalism" enabled his researchers to track down the actor with that face.

[b]Turns out the autopsy was not shot on film in 1947 when aliens reportedly landed near Roswell, New Mexico. It was shot on video in 1994
http://www.trudang.com/autopsy/autonew.html

Sci/Tech
Alien hoax dismays scientists by Science Editor Dr David Whitehouse

Some greeted it as a breakthrough. Others were more suspicious, believing it to be a hoax. Now the strange case of the 'alien' signals from a nearby star seems to be just that. Last week it was claimed that a British engineer working for a telecommunications company had picked up strange signals from a nearby star system called EQ Pegasi. The data was posted on the Internet, starting a flurry of debate. Some astronomers went away to look at EQ Peg, others were suspicious.

For the past 10 days we have been chasing a ghost," says Dr Paul Shuch executive director of the Seti (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) League, an international organisation of amateur ET hunters.

The Seti League has a network of 900 members in 48 countries. Many of them operate small radio telescopes as part of their search for alien signals from space.

"None of them has been able to find the claimed signal from EQ Peg," says Dr Shuch. "Real science has been jeopardised. It is no longer just a hoax, it is sabotage of a highly respected grassroots effort. It has set Seti back a hundred years."

Some of the world's major radio telescopes have also been looking for the signal with no success.
The Australian compact array telescope, with is 30 times more powerful than the telescope that found the original signals, has not found anything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/206845.stm

There is millions of evidence that all the recorded proofs are simply hoax. Bible talks of Creation in detail and the picture I posted of an Alien is the most widely known picture of Martian alien. Scientists believe that Aliens visited us from Mars. Now science is saying there is no life on Mars?

Fallen out Angels are no aliens. They are known as fallen out angels and aliens. Lee there is no recorded proof of an alien sighting in any part other than the western world. Many believe there is no God, so shall we believe that there is no much evidence against God, so we should not believe in God?

When we talk of Angels, why do angels or heavenly beings look like us? As the Bible puts, earthly things are copy of Heavenly things. All the incidents, where an angel visited anyone in the Bible, why did they use a male form? They were not something different.

God bless you all

O My God Daniel, how could you responded so fast? It was
only 5 or 10 minutes since I wrote this letter on aliens, and then you wrote
this gigantic letter. How do you do it, are you magic? Lee

Hi Daniel, You are the funniest guy and this is not about alliens but about you! How can you work, keep up with your website, keep up with mine whatch the fox News, watch movies read the Bible, and type so much in so little time? Are you sure the alliens are not helping you? Anna

Dear Ana

Maybe I am an Alien more intelligent than humans. See I look one while laughing. No I have been into Inter-faith dialogues, dialogues with Athiests, dialogues with philosopher, dialgoues with Spiritual Scientists since I was 17 years old and that makes 20 years from now. So I have all these question put up to me many times. Althoug I am not intelligent than Aliens but more intelligent than them. Just watch the picture below. If in any case it is offensive, please forgive me and delete it. For I love Aliens' intelligence, let me see how many Aliens can understand the picture

LOL Daniel you are like I have said a funny guy, I knew the alliens are helping you. and they give you all this energy to.

Lee wrote:Yes I believe we are
not alone out there. There is too much proof that Aliens exist. Just two days
ago I saw a UFO. I was at my job it was dark. I was in my car laying back in
the seat looking an the night sky. Then I saw it, it was very small, a pen
point of light, lighter that all the other stars barely visible to the naked
eye but I still could see it. It was moving very fast I thought maybe it was
moving 9,000 miles per hour. But since it was in outer space and visibly moving
very fast, it could have easily been moving 100,000 miles per hour. I have written
a letter on who I believe these aliens are. It is called





Are Fallen Angels
Actually Aliens.

Are the one third of the fallen angels described in
Revelation12:7-9
Actually space Aliens. We will discus the facts in the up
coming pages. My Lovely wife was the one who first mention this idea to me and
it make perfect sence. It is our belief that aliens are working with the
antichrist, studding us and doing all kinds of metical experiments on
abductees, so they will have all the right answers for the antichrist when he
comes on the seen. The antichrist will have all the answers that pelage our
world today. He will have the cure for just about every incurable disease know
to man, thanks to the assistance from the alien abductee research. In
Revelation 13:13 it says{ He did counterfeit miracles such as making fire flame down to
earth from the skies while everyone was watching.} Highly Possible that he
will use some kind of highly sophisticated alien technology to perform this
light show. When these angels were in heaven before they were thrown down to
the earth, they were full of God’s glory, but when they rebelled against God
they lost their glory and took on the form we know them as today, aliens. The
masters of the new Age Movement are aliens says Benjamin Creem. The leader of
the aliens will speak to everyone telepathically on television around the world
and everyone will understand him in their own langue. The Life is in the blood.
In Deuteronomy 12:23 God says that the life is in the blood. I believe that in
order for these fallen angels to take on physical form they need the life blood
of live stock. They mutilate them and take massive amounts of blood to use for
the express purpose of transforming into physical beings called Aliens. Once in
physical form they are free to continue in their diabolical schemes.

I belive that what your wife said is partlly true that the devil is plaing something very evil and expermenting where and when he can.

Like I said satan is prince of the Air he can deceive peopel with ufos.




At times peopling geting suck in in reading about ufos also get suck in the occult.


really ufos and the occult are close in nature.




Get The movie UNidentified its pretty good and it chrisitian movie

There are many unexplainable things in this world. I have spoken to some who have had "close encounters" with what they perceived as aliens. I believe that the incident was real. I do not believe in extraterrestials however. It is very likely that this is a spiritual manifestation of some sort by the deceiver. I do believe that "ghosts are also demonic manifestations. Both ideas seem to undermine scriptural perspectives. That is what the adversary does best. Undermines faith with delusions.

Well, i thought i'd throw in my 2 cents on the topic:

Do aliens exist?
At the moment, i can't say one way or the other. There just isn't enough evidence to prove or disprove it. However...
There is sufficient evidence to suggest that its very probable that intelligent life exists other than Earth.
In our little solar system, we have 8 planets (used to be 9, but now pluto isn't considered to be a planet anymore). Two of which are in the range that can support life (earth, and mars. But mars just misses the mark with the CO2 atmosphere. But wouldn't take much to make it habitable). Thats just in our solar system. There are around 200-400 billion stars in the milky way. Each with its own set of planets (with a few exceptions most likely, but you get the idea. ALOT of planets). Then we've got the "Local Group" of galaxies which includes about 35 galaxies (10,500 billion star systems), then we're part of the Virgo Supercluster which contains the local group and a bunch more like it, so we can average that and say... 1,050,000,000,000,000 star systems. And it goes significantly beyond that also, but again lets take that number and say for each system there is an average of 3 planets per solar system (some have many more, some way less, but lets just split the difference.) So there are just in our supercluster, roughly 3,150,000,000,000,000 planets. What are the chances that theres a second one that can support life?

Why do they show up mostly in the western part of the world?
Well, this is a bit of a social/government problem. For example, there's been a huge problem with AIDS in China. But up until only a few years ago, the government was supressing the information and claiming that AIDS was a western illness only. Right up until it was getting epidemic then they called for the World Health Orginization and released some of the real figures.
So if the reports of UFOs are in fact, alien spacecraft, it may not be reported as widely in other countries where freedom of the press (and free speech) are not availible.

Nasa and UFOs
Plese watch it.